[C4 Rides] [C4members] Oramm pre-ride 7/8 or 9?

Thu Jun 22 19:20:12 EDT 2017

I agree Cathi.  But the route is chosen to minimize the roadie sections.  I
think if you know your limitations and don't have a problem saying "srcew
this I'm walking", it's all doable.  You just need to know when to say "um,
no".  It's a good time no matter what.  Awesome memories are made from days
like this.

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017, 7:02 PM Cathi Mowery <cmowery3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I'm a bad one to ask cause I'm not in love with these trails.  I've
> never raced ORAMM because I consider it a dirt roadie course.  Only 2
> single track downhills, not worth all that in between road, gravel & dirt
> double track (Jared Creek).  I think those are 75% of it?  Star gap is
> tough, but most walk sections, same for Kitsuma switchbacks.
>
> But Shawn did say he wants to climb old toll Rd.  That's a beast even for
> semi-experienced.  (Rocky, but flat rocks...  Creek bed).
>
> So ok, may have a point.
>
> It's been a few years for me which is why I'm interested to go again.
>
> When the Divas ride DuPont, our newer road ladies are super strong, but
> just take it easier on the tecky sections.  (I know, DuPont is quite
> different, but for ORAMM trails, I feel like if you're comfortable with
> "exposure" (i.e. Riding "Ledge'y"), you can walk the harder parts & not
> hold the group up too much.  Esp cause you kill it on the cardio climbs...
>
> Anyone else want to speak up & advise?
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2017, at 5:58 PM, Matt Hartman <matt at fourmattech.com> wrote:
>
> Tina, I need to warn you, these trails we are going to do are advanced
> trails and not for super beginners.   I haven't ridden with you, so I don't
> know how much skill you have, but if you just got on a mountain bike for
> the first time the other day, I would suggest trying out some more trails
> around here before attempting these. The ORAMM trails are way more advanced
> than anything you can do around here, so if your having issues with local
> trails, then you'll know that, you might be best to get some more
> practice.  Cathi, am I off base here?
> --
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 5:49 PM Tina Bickford via Rides <
> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes Cathi I believe I will be attempting this. Rode a demo bike last
>> weekend and feel in love with the trails!!(:
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 2:11 PM, Gmail via Rides <
>> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the proposed route is a long day.  Can def bail before Kitsuma...
>>
>> Sean nobody climbs slower than me.
>>
>> I was hoping to make an AOMM, but this def sounds more fun.  ;)
>>
>> Did I see Tina on here?  Expressing interest? Hope so.  (It's forwarded
>> thru Lori so hard to follow who's speaking.)
>>
>> Cathi
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Jim Roof via Rides <
>> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mostly dirt with some road transitin points. Multiple bail points if
>> needed.
>>
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>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Barrett Lawson via Rides <
>> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com> wrote:
>>
>> I believe I'm in if it's on the 9th.
>>
>> -Barrett
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 9:39 AM Earnhardt, Sean via Rides <
>> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Shawn and Matt can give a bit more info on bail out points (I’d like to
>>> know myself), but just to make sure everyone knows…  this is a Mountain
>>> Bike Ride, not a road ride or a CX ride (unless you are Aaron and/or crazy).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, We’d love to take a big crew and have a fun day on the trails, but
>>> if you are roadie only up to this point, maybe you should start looking for
>>> a Mountain Bike!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> By the way, the July edition of the Assault on Morrow Mountain is on Sat
>>> the 8th.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> SE
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [C4 Rides] [C4members] Oramm pre-ride 7/8 or 9?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would it be 60 miles ? Having never done it , is it mostly dirt and some
>>> road riding or 50 % each . Is there any bail out points or are you stuck at
>>> finishing all 60 ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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>>> -------- Original message --------
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>>> From: Tina Bickford via Rides <rides at centralcarolinacycling.com>
>>>
>>> Date: 6/22/17 7:53 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>>
>>> To: Matt Hartman <matt at fourmattech.com>
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>>> Cc: c4members at centralcarolinacycling.com,
>>> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com
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>>> Subject: Re: [C4 Rides] [C4members]  Oramm pre-ride 7/8 or 9?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would be interested in trying if it is the 9th
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 7:32 AM, Matt Hartman via Rides <
>>> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm a soft yes for either day, and I have another guy from Asheville
>>> (relative newbie) interested as well.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 8:25 PM Matt Broadway via C4members <
>>> c4members at centralcarolinacycling.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Possible, if it is on Saturday.
>>>
>>> Matt Broadway
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Shawn via Rides <
>>> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Excellent. I have one other, too, that's interested, especially if it's
>>> that Sunday. I'm good either way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, I'll start calling people out... Matt H, Matt B, Sean E, Ritchie,
>>> Bruce (help me here, who else?) etc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris, I think you should be the ultimate say for what we ride, how far,
>>> how hard, etc. If you don't have an opinion bc you haven't been up there, I
>>> was imagining a very chill ride with plenty of regrouping if necessary.
>>> Maybe start with Toll Road to Heartbreak / Star then up to Kitsuma (dirt
>>> road or old 70?) then do Kitsuma and head back up old 70 to the car. That's
>>> a good day at a chill pace.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Chris Ashworth <cncguru at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, been away from computer today and phone left on charger.  Yes I'd
>>> be interested and the 9th would be best for me but game for either day.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher Ashworth
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shawn via Rides <rides at centralcarolinacycling.com>
>>> To: c4members <c4members at centralcarolinacycling.com>; rides <
>>> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com>
>>> Sent: Wed, Jun 21, 2017 4:06 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [C4 Rides] Oramm pre-ride 7/8 or 9?
>>>
>>> Chris, you're the center attraction here...are you interested and does
>>> that weekend work for you?
>>>
>>> > On Jun 21, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Cathi Mowery <cmowery3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I'm interested
>>> >
>>> >> On Jun 21, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Shawn via Rides <
>>> rides at centralcarolinacycling.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I could make a pre-ride that weekend if that works.
>>> >>
>>> >> Shawn F
>>> >>
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